lines or light?...500 ELX

VLAD THE BLAD

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Can i add something to this, here are 4 negs some have lines and defects some don't , but on this 3rd and 4th test shot i have deliberately turned the brightness down and the contrast up to show you, these are not scanner lines, are they ghost ladders caused by over agitation? or is it something else on the camera back Hasselblad 500 ELX 80mm lens, fuji neopan 400 iso film for all images. i have never ever encountered this before, its all rather puzzling! image 1 has vignetting by design not a defect of camera etc.
 

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photoeil

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To my personal opinion, this looks more like bromide drag strikes by development...
I have seen this when stand developing, or poor agitation by hand, and also with motor based agitation due to unidirectional rotation.
Do you process your own film, if so how?
 

VLAD THE BLAD

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To my personal opinion, this looks more like bromide drag strikes by development...
I have seen this when stand developing, or poor agitation by hand, and also with motor based agitation due to unidirectional rotation.
Do you process your own film, if so how?
Hi thank you for your reply, well; i hand crank for agitation have done since 1985, all through my press days and i can only count on one hand when i have encountered something similar to the dark lines, they were known back then as "Ghost ladders" caused through over agitation in the development stage. It almost seems as if it only really is noticeable when using ID11. tens seconds out of every minute that's all i have ever done for black and white, even when i had to dev my film in the boot of my car on a cold night in london to meet press deadlines i never had this problem, ever! colour agitation as you will appreciate is a different agitation process completely but still no problems there. this is 35mm as well as 5x4 sheet and 120 roll. so, who knows hey...?
 

photoeil

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Well, looking at image n° 3, it looks like light flare. As it occurs at the left side, it might NOT come true the leaking light seal of the Hasselblad film holder because, as the image is projected upside down, the flare schold be on the right side of the print. The light seal sits in the slot where the protection slider is put, and is the most vulnerable part of the entire Hasselblad system, but you know that ofcourse.

On the other hand, the strikes all over the image, as in the fourth picture, according to my old AGFA-Gevaert handbook, it is caused by something during the developing process, mainly short times or bad agitation. But, as you explained, your processing seems to be good.

I am very sorry, but I am afraid that I can't help you. But if you happen to find it out, please tell me.

BTW, do you apply a pre wet bath?
 

VLAD THE BLAD

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Well, looking at image n° 3, it looks like light flare. As it occurs at the left side, it might NOT come true the leaking light seal of the Hasselblad film holder because, as the image is projected upside down, the flare schold be on the right side of the print. The light seal sits in the slot where the protection slider is put, and is the most vulnerable part of the entire Hasselblad system, but you know that ofcourse.

On the other hand, the strikes all over the image, as in the fourth picture, according to my old AGFA-Gevaert handbook, it is caused by something during the developing process, mainly short times or bad agitation. But, as you explained, your processing seems to be good.

I am very sorry, but I am afraid that I can't help you. But if you happen to find it out, please tell me.

BTW, do you apply a pre wet bath?
Hi, no i never pre wet bath, ilfords film have a wetting type agent embedded into all of their films, i will keep you updated tho.

Jason
 
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