Test 50 mm F lens against 50 mm Canon

blowupster

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Ok I will see how to post my film picture on the net.

BTW yesterday I test my Hasselblad Zeiss FE 50mm 2.8 with my Canon 450D 12.2 Mpix (Kiss X2 in Japanees) and compare with my Canon EF 50mm 1.4 lens.

The target is at a distance of 1.2m and the two pictures were taken at f 1/5.6.

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The conclusion in french is: Why not a 115Mpix back for Hasselblad V lenses !


(Sorry to use japanees clock in Switzerland for test, I will try to do better next time !)


OK some information for no french speaking readers:

Both pictures are taken at 5.6 with the Canon 450D (12.2 mpix) One picture with the Canon EF 50mm 1.4 UMS lens and the other on with the Zeiss distagon FE 50mm 2.8. With the canon lens I use auto-focus and with the Hasselblad monthed with a special ring I use the liveview 5x mode.

Not big différence between the result, even if the distagon lens seams to give sharper image.
That's a surprise.
However the Distagon is a 51.7 mm not a true 50.0 mm focal lens and for distagon I use manual focus not the Af mode.
Perhaps this 2 differences can explain why the Hasselblad gave better result than Canon lens on Canon body

The digital sensor of the canon is real sharp, if one sensor with that sharpness covers 56x56mm that's mean more than 100Mpix.

You can click on the two pictures to have full size pictures of the 100% crop.

Anyway I know witch lens I will use for the next numerical repro job with Canon 12.2. Mpix: the Hasselblad Lens.
 

blowupster

Member
Now Zeiss show new manual lenses for ... Canon.

A 50mm 1.4 lens. Manual focusing too. Interesting but manual focussing is a real job if you use the canon viewfinder. Liveview is nor so practical. Perhaps focusing confimation could help.

Let see new Zeiss lenses on the new 5D MK II ...

This end of 2008 is realy interesting. ....Hard to decide now.
 

ComicDom1

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I have the 5D, 1D, 1DMKII and a EOS-3. I also have the 50F 2.8 finally. I have a 110F 2.0 on the way to me also. I do not have a hassy to eos adapter yet, but I would be willing to do a similar test when I get caught up and purchase one.

I agree it is going to be interesting to compare the New 5D is there is one to the Old 5D as well as some of the other lenses and see the results. I think the results will be very telling.

Jason
 

blowupster

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... and a new improved 24mm 1.4 L

Perhaps as the 50mm 1.4 the previus 24mm dated from FD time.

For the new 5D a special screen for manual focussing may be fitted.
If canon was not so unexpensive I allready bought a CFV.
 

wbulte

Active Member
I want this one (sorry, Dutch text):



And I want a full-frame Pentax DSLR to go with it ;-)

Wilko


Sorry Wilko.
Link removed Dirks forum rules.
 

polypal

New Member
Apparently this is what Wilko wants:

The new Carl Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 available at the end of the year for cameras with EF, F and K bayonet.







You can not even buy a decent used Hasselblad 40 mm lens for the V series for 1399 euro incl 19% sales tax.

Only problem is the full frame Pentax DSLR.
I do not think that will be ready at the end of the year....
 

ulrik

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A thing of that size is close to Hasselblad dimensions. If 35 mm, then small and beautiful. The Zeiss C Biogon 4,5/21 mm would fit my full-frame M2 nicely...

Ulrik
 

blowupster

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A thing of that size is close to Hasselblad dimensions. If 35 mm, then small and beautiful. The Zeiss C Biogon 4,5/21 mm would fit my full-frame M2 nicely...
Ulrik






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vandevantersh

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"The new Carl Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 available at the end of the year for cameras with EF, F and K bayonet."
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Is it an "inside joke" to have the external meter connector?...I remember that from my Nikormat and Nikon F days. I wonder what used it has in this lens.

Steve
 

polypal

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A number of CZ lenses are also suitable for Nikon cameras.

Could be CZ is planning to make a Nikon version as well. :)
 

vandevantersh

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A number of CZ lenses are also suitable for Nikon cameras.

Could be CZ is planning to make a Nikon version as well. :)
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I was curious about the "pronged" interconnect on the lens. That was used to couple the lens to the Nikon Photomic meter; which was discontinued in 1974(?). Maybe there is another use for it, if not, I find it rather odd on a new lens.
 

polypal

New Member
Carl Zeiss decided to use the letter code by which the bayonets for various cameras are known.
"F" means Nikon.
CZ Lenses suitable for Nikon cameras are coded ZF.


Compatible SLR Camera MountsThe Carl Zeiss SLR lenses are available with F bayonet (ZF), K bayonet (ZK) and the M42 screw threads (ZS). The possibilities of using scene programs, different types of exposure metering and individualized functions can be varied depending on the camera model.

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Lenses with F bayonet for Nikon
or Fuji SLR cameras.

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Lenses equipped with an EF bayonet for EOS cameras from Canon

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Lenses with K bayonet for Pentax
or Samsung SLR cameras.´





Mystery solved.
 

polypal

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Hi Eduardo,

Carl Zeiss has shown it can be done.
To invest in lenses for cameras that are obsolete.

We can only hope they do not want to wait that long before they will offer something new for the V series.
I am thinking of a new APO Makro Planar for instance like the one CZ made for Contax 645.

Paul
 

vandevantersh

New Member
Hi Eduardo,

Carl Zeiss has shown it can be done.
To invest in lenses for cameras that are obsolete.

We can only hope they do not want to wait that long before they will offer something new for the V series.
I am thinking of a new APO Makro Planar for instance like the one CZ made for Contax 645.

Paul
CZ obviously takes obsolete seriously. The last "F" mount Nikon to use the "fork thingy" was the F2 Photomic SB, introduced in 1976.

Steve
 

polypal

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CZ obviously takes obsolete seriously. The last "F" mount Nikon to use the "fork thingy" was the F2 Photomic SB, introduced in 1976.

Steve
That is called downwards compatible.
The fork lived long after that on lenses produced by Nikon.
It could even be retro fitted to some later lenses.

The Nikon bayonet is together with the one from Pentax one of the longest used for 35 mm cameras.
Canon changed theirs to make room for electronics.
 
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